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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://timebackmanagement.com/blog/one-reason-why-so-many-lean-initiatives-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-162</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

I agree that a CEO&#039;s biggest problem is unlikely to be a messy office. But I do think that setting a good example is a key part of leadership. What if the CMO of a hospital didn&#039;t wash his hands regularly? That&#039;s a pretty minor thing -- after all, he&#039;s probably not operating on a regular basis -- but it&#039;s an important signal.

But even leaving the messy desk aside, what about other concepts, such as making work visible (a la Jon Miller&#039;s white board experiment? See it here: http://is.gd/2oID7). Or creating standard work for himself to not only improve his own performance, but to show that there&#039;s always room to think about improving the efficiency of how we work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>I agree that a CEO&#8217;s biggest problem is unlikely to be a messy office. But I do think that setting a good example is a key part of leadership. What if the CMO of a hospital didn&#8217;t wash his hands regularly? That&#8217;s a pretty minor thing &#8212; after all, he&#8217;s probably not operating on a regular basis &#8212; but it&#8217;s an important signal.</p>
<p>But even leaving the messy desk aside, what about other concepts, such as making work visible (a la Jon Miller&#8217;s white board experiment? See it here: <a href="http://is.gd/2oID7" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/2oID7</a>). Or creating standard work for himself to not only improve his own performance, but to show that there&#8217;s always room to think about improving the efficiency of how we work.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Graban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Graban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi - good post. I&#039;d argue that the CEO&#039;s biggest problem isn&#039;t related to a messy office in most cases. I don&#039;t really buy the &quot;setting a good example&quot; argument.

I think 5S applies best, and eliminates more waste, in shared workspaces.

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8211; good post. I&#8217;d argue that the CEO&#8217;s biggest problem isn&#8217;t related to a messy office in most cases. I don&#8217;t really buy the &#8220;setting a good example&#8221; argument.</p>
<p>I think 5S applies best, and eliminates more waste, in shared workspaces.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Graban</title>
		<link>http://timebackmanagement.com/blog/one-reason-why-so-many-lean-initiatives-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Graban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A slightly messy desk is unlikely to kill anybody, unlike unclean hands -- it&#039;s not just in surgery, but in any patient setting or room, germs could be spread. The CMO should absolutely set a good example when out in the hospital, I agree.

I think other concepts like visual management and standardized work are great for a CEO.

Either way, we&#039;re talking tools instead of talking about problems to solve, which is where I think the focus should be.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A slightly messy desk is unlikely to kill anybody, unlike unclean hands &#8212; it&#8217;s not just in surgery, but in any patient setting or room, germs could be spread. The CMO should absolutely set a good example when out in the hospital, I agree.</p>
<p>I think other concepts like visual management and standardized work are great for a CEO.</p>
<p>Either way, we&#8217;re talking tools instead of talking about problems to solve, which is where I think the focus should be.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, 

Very good point about tools vs. problems to solve. I hadn&#039;t thought of that. It&#039;s an important distinction, and I think I lose sight of that on occasion.

If I read Jamie&#039;s post on LeanBlog correctly, one of the roles of the leader (CEO, VP, Mgr, Supervisor) is to pick up the tools without waiting for his team -- though as you say, in order to solve a problem, not just for the hell of it.

I probably obsess too much about 5S, largely because it&#039;s so visual. Feel free to us 5S as a symbol of any other lean tool: the key point is that they need to use them and live the, not just encourage others to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, </p>
<p>Very good point about tools vs. problems to solve. I hadn&#8217;t thought of that. It&#8217;s an important distinction, and I think I lose sight of that on occasion.</p>
<p>If I read Jamie&#8217;s post on LeanBlog correctly, one of the roles of the leader (CEO, VP, Mgr, Supervisor) is to pick up the tools without waiting for his team &#8212; though as you say, in order to solve a problem, not just for the hell of it.</p>
<p>I probably obsess too much about 5S, largely because it&#8217;s so visual. Feel free to us 5S as a symbol of any other lean tool: the key point is that they need to use them and live the, not just encourage others to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Graban</title>
		<link>http://timebackmanagement.com/blog/one-reason-why-so-many-lean-initiatives-fail/comment-page-1/#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Graban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, don&#039;t beat yourself up, we all forget that at times.

I&#039;ve been VERY encouraged lately by the number of hospital execs who have realized and said that &quot;standardized work is for ALL levels of the organization.&quot; Setting a good example AND being more effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, don&#8217;t beat yourself up, we all forget that at times.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been VERY encouraged lately by the number of hospital execs who have realized and said that &#8220;standardized work is for ALL levels of the organization.&#8221; Setting a good example AND being more effective.</p>
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